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Bitcoin Spam: A Libre Relay View with Proof of Cash | SLP703

By Stephan Livera

Aired Nov 17, 2025 · 2h 28m · Last boosted Dec 19, 2025

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Stephan Livera and Kevin Cai dive into the Bitcoin spam debate, breaking down the different camps in the community, the line between consensus and policy, and how transaction filters, dust limits, and Libre Relay affect the network. They explore mining economics, fee dynamics, and the subjective nature of what people call spam. Kevin also discusses UTXO consolidation, decentralization, and how BRC-20 activity impacts the fee market. He explains the cultural differences behind spam opinions and the broader implications for Bitcoin’s ecosystem. The conversation covers the challenges of Bitcoin development, including concerns around temporary fixes li...

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