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Chat_178 - Our Burden To Carry with American HODL, Erik Cason, and Brandon Quittem

By Guy Swann

Aired Sep 1, 2026 · 2h 16m · Last boosted 1h ago

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***"In the early days, the average user could probably use a Coldcard and know the amount of entropy required. The average Bitcoin user today, no clue. And so the times have changed, our message should have changed. And where I come down to is essentially what you said HODL, you should custody your bitcoin at the level that you are ready for. And that is a process. Day 1, don't shame someone for using an ETF. Applaud them for exposure and remind them that this isn't the end and as your experience, your knowledge, your position size increases, you may...

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  • 100 via Fountain
    I'm sorry I never have trusted hardware wallets and never will. Unless you're both a hardware AND software engineer you CANNOT be sure it's safe. I'm old fashioned. Physical dice rolls to create a 100% offline wallet backed up on steel. 3/3 multisig. 768 bits of real entropy.
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    The outernet stuff you're looking for the name of is Reticulum I suspect. Works over lora, Bluetooth, wifi, TCP/IP, ham radio (illegally -- its encrypted), wires...pretty much whatever you want. FIPS is another cool one you should all look at. Turns your npub into an IPv6 address. Talk to @npub1dergggklk… and Max Hillebrand
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  • 420 via Fountain
    Better mechanisms for propagating cultural capital are required more than ever but I don't think self custody is that hard. The ritual that guy mentioned is not brought up enough, being familiar and comfortable with each setup comes in hand when things get hairy. #40hpw