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Michael Saylor: Genius or Madman? FIERY DEBATE w/ Guy Swann & Steve Patterson

By Clint Russell

Aired Dec 14, 2024 · 2h 33m · Last boosted Dec 15, 2024

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Today I have on Guy Swann of Bitcoin Audible and Steve Patterson who co-authored his latest book with Roger Ver titled Hijacking Bitcoin. All three of us agreed that this would not be a debate. So guess what it was...One of the most heated debates I've ever had on this show. Enjoy. Help to free Roger here: https://www.freerogernow.org/ Follow Steve here: https://x.com/steveinpursuit Follow Guy here: https://x.com/TheGuySwann Today's show was brought to you by Monetary Metals. https://monetary-metals.com/lockdown/ to learn more. ...

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The fact even reasonable people like this guest mostly sounds to be, are still acting like Gold VS Bitcoin is a thing worth talking is foolish. Gold is a ally not a enemy.
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One of the more reasonable guests, but ignoring the previous cycles as just random they all match up is silly. No 60K is not bottom. 46K is coming. & no not going to zero. He said same thing about going below 25K in 2022 and we went down another 40% or so, we always overdo it and we will see 50K break.
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U guys discuss the files, but don’t even read them and spend 20 minutes speculating. If ur finna discuss , how about spending time actually doing some research, if we wanted moronic speculation, we could talk to our friends. Podcast we expect more then this dumb show
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Sorry for my other comment on this episode! I meant to post it on the co hosts other podcast episode, the one recorded a week prior with all the prices discussed being out of date, my bad! Posted it in wrong place
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PiezApr 11, 2025
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You’ve been saying this since u started podcast.
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Stay humble & stack sats, great advice
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geneeverettNov 15, 2025
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No, no such thing as a Super Cycle. Just as usual more clickbait titles.
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Nostr Community

Everyone who has boosted Michael Saylor: Genius or Madman? FIERY DEBATE w/ Guy Swann & Steve Patterson on Nostr, ranked by sats sent, all time.

  1. B 500 sats
  2. Piez 420 sats
  3. Gene Everett 404 sats
  4. Herengone 100 sats

Episode Boosts

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  • 500 via Fountain
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  • 100 via Fountain
    Thank you OG bitcoiners for not selling out
  • 420 via Fountain
    Thank you gentlemen 🔥🍻🍄💪
  • 101 via Fountain
    Bitcoin Cash is dead. Why are we even talking about this? It’s down 99.5% versus bitcoin. The debate is over how he people chose
  • 101 via Fountain
    Seriously this is just 2 people acting lope pathetic children. Especially the Swan guy (who I actually agree with ironically).
  • 101 via Fountain
    The emotional outbursts here are childish AF. Not helpful at all
  • 101 via Fountain
    The Ad’s u have on this are anti everything u stand for 🙄