I'm quite clever, and my mathematical ability is better than most, but Stephen's work puts me firmly in my place!
I'm a dumbass!
(Still a power law believer!)
Astrophysicist: Bitcoin Should Be $137K Right Now
By Robin Seyr
Aired Aug 9, 2026 · 1h 7m · Last boosted 22d ago
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Stephen Perrenod on Bitcoin, Power law and Gold Flippening.If you want a 1on1 call with me: https://cal.com/robinseyr/bitcoinstrategyTake your Self-Custody seriously and get a Microseed:https://microseed.ioWant to mine Bitcoin? I personally use Simple Mining:https://www.simplemining.io/robinseyrBitcoin's own growth model says the price should be around $137,000 today. It is at $65,000.Astrophysicist Stephen Perrenod walks through the peer reviewed derivation behind that gap: why Bitcoin's price follows a power law with an R² above 0.95, why the same curve shows up against six major fiat currencies and four commodities, and what the model p...
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 20, 2025
500 Eye-opening podcast. I'm not familiar with his work so this was inspirational. Not sure why he's described as weird or annoying, I didn't detect that.
Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 20, 2025
500 Inspirational.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 8, 2025
500 Love Giovanni's work and his commitment to unbiased scientific method.
Having said that, in his presentations he dives into so many associated points that I'm sure the average listener will end up bewitched, bothered and bewildered by so much information.
Nevertheless, if you're prepared to concentrate, this is brilliant stuff. Audio only on fountain, so you don't get to see the charts he refers to.
Kudos to Stephan for keeping it on track with a light touch!
Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 4, 2025
500 I've been interested in Gio's power law work since I discovered it about a year ago.
He's been attacked by many who should know better, but who won't retain the open mindedness they once had for bitcoin itself. The attacks are always ad hominem and never scientific.
Good to see Stephan being a leading light in the open-minded discussions.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKMay 10, 2026
500 I'm just upset, as an elderly super-boomer, that there is so little I understand. Lots of interesting stuff in here though.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKApr 17, 2026
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 25, 2026
500 Reduce screen time! Listen to podcasts rather than watch them. Also, it's not screen time, but don't be always listening to stuff while walking or gardening.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 11, 2026
500 Important work. Though I must admit that I didn't understand the details of how I would use any of it.
My bad!
Dec 19, 2025
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKDec 20, 2025
500 Some of it was over my head, even though I have good mathematical knowledge. but Stephen Perrenod is the absolute top guy in my book. Even among bitcoiners I meet in person I'm still the only one who values the power law, but that's their loss!
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 27, 2025
500 Ideal episode. Role model for podcasters.
They said early on that they had no content for this episode, and they achieved that goal by brilliantly meandering, chatting and generally killing time.
💯 % success!
Well done lads! I'll be back!
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 9, 2025
500 So good to get a reasonable perspective on the Core/Knots debate.
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500 I am in awe of you guys. Ben Gunn got a mention, rightly so because I want him to be my late-in-life role model and mentor. Never too late for me to improve.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKAug 4, 2025
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Cake wallet is great on android. But on my Linux it seemed to install, then on next use gave errors, and I couldn't get back in.
Don't know how to delete it and reinstall.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJul 12, 2025
500 This is amazing stuff! Ben Gunn can be my mentor! If he doesn't mind an old guy hanging around and making inane comments.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJul 9, 2025
500 Just caught up with this! What an inspiration is Ben Gunn! Don't know where to begin. I'm old now, but I recognise his mindset. I just never was confident to back my own ideas. (Can confirm that Nathan Day is a good guy!)
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKMay 15, 2025
500 Shockingly bad from this 'philosopher'. Facts, he says, ignoring the fact that we were all supposed to be under water by now.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKMar 25, 2025
500 Yes I agree with Max's sentiments about all the boring useless bs by most bitcoiners on X.
That's why this podcast is so refreshing with its focus on privacy.
Also Max's voice is calm and soothing, and sends me to sleep after 10 mins.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKFeb 16, 2025
500 Mostly superb. A breath of fresh air when saying what the cowardly Tories should always have said.
Two areas of concern: he kept on talking too much over the interviewer's questions, and he kept on persistently misunderstanding the questions about bitcoin, conflating it with crypto.
So he sometimes sounded to me like an old boomer, even though I'm much older.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKFeb 11, 2025
500 Sounds great. But I've downloaded Cake wallet and I can't see how to get going on it.
Support guide gives 404 Not found.
How to get started?
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 16, 2025
500 Your podcast is great but it uses up about 5 hours of my time.
I record it and edit out all the swearing, especially the c word. My editing skills are poor.
Then I'm not embarrassed to listen to it with my 15 year-old granddaughter.
The final version runs for about 10 minutes!
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKJan 4, 2025
500 Brilliant antidote to the 'Bitcoin fixed this' bs which many of us have fallen prey to.
I heard about his work a couple of years ago, but then forgot about it.
Very clear challenges to the prevailing groupthink. Many uncomfortable truths.
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500 Don't know why, but I love these Ungernovernabubble podcasts. Even though I'm 50 years over the target audience age.
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Brilliant.
Must listen.
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500 Great show. Peter eloquent mid/end on what's wrong in the UK. Well worth a listen.
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500 Recommend this episode. Some of it should resonate with normie finance guys.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 29, 2024
500 Full disclosure: I'm an early boomer.
Getting involved with the bitcoin scene, say 4 years ago, I was blown away by the amazing people and their insights which resonated with me.
I've gradually realised that they are mostly f*kn ret*rd sheep who blindly follow the latest crappy influencers. We've all been there!
Now it's your podcast and your guest who are resonating.
Thank you!
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 14, 2024
500 Fascinating episode. I'm listening on fountain when possible. But sometimes it's good to see the speakers as well, so I have to still use Spotify sometimes.
I don't find Nostr very easy or useful but I just keep going because I know I will get better, and it will get better.
Oscar explains stuff really well.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 6, 2024
500 All super important stuff. But the Elon derangement is big. Twitter under Jack D invited all the three letter acronym agencies in, to censor and surveil. Now he's a hero.
The current model of single super-powerful owner is very bad long term, obviously. But it's better in the short term.
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Rog @ SC Bitcoin ⚡UKOct 6, 2024
500 The best thing about this show? Max's proper English voice. Not Mockney, not Brummie, not Yorkshire, not Liddypoool. Just proper English, like my own.
Forget privacy, self sovereignty and other boring crap. Just say absolutely anything, but in a proper non-yankee voice.
It's not an accent. It's the bitcoin of voices.
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Glad it's not just me who finds Nostr very limited and difficult at the moment. I would say impossible for the casual user to get much out of it.
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