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Behind the Scenes With Relai And Their MICA License - Julian Liniger. #582

By Daniel Prince

Aired Dec 15, 2025 · 1h 37m · Last boosted Dec 16, 2025

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Have you ever wondered how long it takes or how expensive it is to get a MICA license? $ BTC 88,907 Block Height 927,878 Today's guest on the show is Julian Liniger, the Co-founder and CEO of Relai. How long has it taken Relai to get their MICA License? How much did it cost? What challenges did they face? Why does Julian believe only a handful of companies will be granted the license? What does this mean for the Bitcoin space? How do Relai...

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