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What Bitcoin Did

BITCOIN IS WINNING w/ Matt Odell

By Danny Knowles

Aired Apr 22, 2025 · 1h 52m · Last boosted Apr 29, 2025

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Matt Odell is host of Citadel Dispatch, co-host of Rabbit Hole Recap, managing partner at Ten31 and co-founder of OpenSats and Bitcoin Park. In this episode, we discuss the risks of Bitcoin’s increasing financialisation, why only a small minority may ever use it as true “freedom money,” and whether Bitcoin is on track to become a global reserve currency. We also get into the rise of stablecoins and their impact on adoption, MicroStrategy’s role in reshaping public market exposure to Bitcoin, and a potential quantum computing threat. Plus, we cover why sats should be the s...

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No actual discussion about the BIP technicals. Projection, fear-mongering, mind reading. Odell kind of did the same thing with Swan Bitcoin a couple years ago when he didn't have info that they hadn't announced and basically accused them of being bad actors and had to walk it back. If you disagree with the goal and assume bad motivations then of course it's going to seem like an attack. BIP-110 supporters can (and probably do) say that Core's actions + some statements by various devs + various VC connections = attack on Bitcoin. Everyone has their idea of what they want Bitcoin to be and everyone has something at stake. As a small miner who is all-in on Bitcoin for years now, and has been following this issue since early 2025, I support the vision of BIP110. Doesnt mean it's perfect, but I believe it's better than the direction we'd be heading without it.
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the core dev, lorinc, finding a critical consensus bug from sloppy coding in 110 was hilarious.
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110 is an attack on Bitcoin. Doesn’t mean Core is perfect either.
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If it doesn’t have in app unilateral exit, it’s custodial, period. This is not negotiable. If something is not implemented then it simply doesn’t exist for the average user. 99.99999% of Spark users don’t even know a CLI app exists let alone how to use it. Without local caching and unilateral exit actually implemented in the app and having hard dependency on operator cooperation to exit then it’s custodial. Listen I actually like Spark and think it makes reasonable tradeoffs in a world without covenants, but as it stands it’s a custodial product. Happy to revise this once we see an actual implementation of unilateral exit and more operators and LSPs, but it’s just the honest reality today.
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If it doesn’t have in app unilateral exit, it’s custodial, period. This is not negotiable. If something is not implemented then it simply doesn’t exist for the average user. 99.99999% of Spark users don’t even know a CLI app exists let alone how to use it. Without local caching and unilateral exit actually implemented in the app and having hard dependency on operator cooperation to exit then it’s custodial. Listen I actually like Spark and think it makes reasonable tradeoffs in a world without covenants, but as it stands it’s a custodial product. Happy to revise this once we see an actual implementation of unilateral exit and more operators and LSPs, but it’s just the honest reality today.
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Thanks for all your work, guys. I don't always agree with you but appreciate you regardless. I'm trying to add to the free, private, decentralized apps space based on p2p protocols and design using the Pear stack. So far I have a family/group calendar, family/location sharing and screen time apps. Please check out what I've got so far at https://peerloomllc.com or check out @npub16u9hy2m8w… on NOSTR.
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I work in the MTB industry and am unaffected, like you using ai tools can be a big help as we’re a small team wearing many hats and ai certainly has streamlined business, legal and HR research. I do have a close friend in the Saas industry and he’s had to completely pivot creating a new service within ai or otherwise be completely replaced being a coder, hacker, ect. Just read the ai2027 piece you spoke about and agree that the level of uncertainty is creating a lot of fear. I’m personally largely a spectator, my background is largely anolog in the physical space, preferably in nature with aww inspire views, however I do my best to stay informed and it is fun to be able to hold a conversation with folks like you and my friend since nobody else seems to even have an idea of what is currently happening outside what’s on mainstream media. Wanted to boost more, trying to figure out how as I’ve done it before, see, just team try hard over here. Keep up the amazing content across all your shows!
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For the love of all that is holy, please read the actual BIP. Lightning would not be affected. So much of the outcry I've heard against the BIP is either not true or has nothing to do with the technicals (I.e. philosophical/ideological) Start with www.bip110.org for the high level FAQ. It took me 10 seconds to look this up. I could be wrong on this, but I haven't seen any technical debates happening (i.e. "the BIP says it won't affect lightning channels becaue of X but actually it will because of Y...")
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"Real wages have increased in lowest quintile". How many jobs are they working ((many had to work extra jobs) and how much of those are government jobs?
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You can always tell a Leftist when start dropping F-bombs before words as a form of emphasis. Dude has TDS something hard
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He is of the group that still believes in "classical liberalism" where it's arguably classical liberalism that got us to this point.
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The great hopening. Can’t help yourself creating memes Odell 👍
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Andere Kritikpunkte stimme ich zu.
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Super Argument Dennis. Tom blendet Kernproblematik aufgrund von Indizien-DoS ab und kommt zu falschen Rückschlüssen. Ganz ohne technisches Verständnis kann man halt leider keine Rückschlüsse auf Validität der Indizien und Schutz vor Zentralisierung ziehen, sorry Tom.
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Genau andersrum, Ver und Co waren die großen Player (Exchanges, Miner, ..) die ihre Geschäftsmodelle schützen wollten und via Blockgröße einfachste Lösung durchdrücken wollten (Zentralisierung). Mining Pools würden mit Bigblocks noch mehr zentralisiert sein weil schwerer Nodes zu betreiben. Pools ist ein Problem, Lösung Stratum v2, Ocean/Datum um Blocktemplates zu dezentralisieren. Ver/Bigblocks hätte nichts daran geändert bzw. verschlimmert. Blocksizewar als neutralere Quelle lesen.
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The argument that we won’t see it coming is self-defeating. If governments have an incentive to go dark, then why do they flip, and then put up the biggest billboard sign imaginable by stealing bitcoin? Imagine the US or China developing a relevant quantum computer in secret and then spoiling the secret to steal some bitcoin, ridiculous.
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Wore the “Bugle News” red shirt in Vegas
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I was already running Knots and Datum for my miners for true solo/lottery mining. After the last two weeks following the debate on Twitter and podcast I just can't see any good, consistent reason for maxing OP_RETURN size AND nuking configuration options. It's clear they want to homogenize all mempools which makes mining centralization even more of a problem. Need to get back to original vision of nodes being in control and nodes/miners being more coterminous.
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  • 500 via Fountain
    Enjoyed the conversation despite the lower caps audio for the first hour 😂
  • 2,121 via Fountain
    Great episode despite the audio quality
  • 256 via Fountain
    Fix your audio!!! “Love you; mean it”
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    Enduring the bad audio was worth it. The quality of the conversation did make up for it. You are forgiven!
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    AWESOME RIP!
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    Zap.store is usefull to find real apps, and avoid the scam/fake once. But, what if you could pay per second for app use, like we pay V4V in a podcasting app? This way you wouldn’t have to pay upfront for a good app. And it would ensure that as long as the app stays true to its users, the makers will continue to make a buck for their hard work.
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    Agreed-audio be damned. You crushed it. Great discussion guys. Sats inbound!
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    I enjoyed the show but @npub16le69k9hw… screwed up the audio. (It was bearable)
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    Danny is crushing it, audio be damned
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    Nice podcast but Danny fucked up the audio 🤷🏼‍♀️