
Chat_127 - The Hijacking Bitcoin Debate [Liberty Lockdown]
By Guy Swann
Aired Feb 13, 2025 · 2h 40m · Last boosted Mar 2, 2025
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In a past episode, I joined Steve Patterson and the host for what was supposed to be a discussion but quickly turned into one of the most heated debates I've had on the show. Along with Steve, who co-authored Hijacking Bitcoin with Roger Ver, we dove into a fiery debate about Michael Saylor—his influence, his ideas, and whether Bitcoin has been hijacked. While we all agreed it wouldn’t be a debate, the conversation sparked intense back-and-forths about Bitcoin’s direction and the potential dangers it faces. It’s a passionate exchange that touches on crucial issues w...
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the book Hijacking Bitcoin is worth reading. Although I prefer small block and stable release, now I know that Bilderberg Group chair John Dillon invested BlockStream. And Cobra (bitcoin.org owner) and Theymos (21 yo cs student, in charge of bitcointalk.org and r/Bitcoin), proposed to "edit the whitepaper" critisizing it is out of date "The whitepaper is to blame for all these dangerous beliefs, We seriously need to rewrite it, or produce a completely new whitepaper and call that the Bitcoin whitepaper"
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Hats off to you @Guy Swann for enduring a conversation with Steve. Good lord that guy is at least as an insufferable prick as Roger Ver is. Honestly couldn't finish listening past the first hour.
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Thanks for all the great work!!
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Interesting discussion. Too bad Steven resorted to so much ad hominem attacked rather than discussing his position in more detail.
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Goddamn
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Steve thinks he knows what he doesn't know. He can't accept the fact he was on the wrong side of a debate. He's stuck in a thought loop from 2013-2015. It's actually sad. Do not fall for the trap of reading his book. It's full of false equivalencies and propaganda.
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I appreciate this conversation, but I wonder if Steve has any awareness of just how delusional he sounds. He consistently arbitrarily chooses which facts to acknowledge and which to ignore. His main arguments against facts that are inconvenient to his arguments are "you don't understand anything" and "so-and-so said this so you're wrong." What really blows my mind is the cognitive dissonance on display by people who adhere to strict literal interpretations of what bitcoin should be based on the white paper and early forum posts while also advocating for wildly unpopular, consensus-breaking hard forks. Very convenient how Adam Back's word is gospel, but only when he happens to utter something that seemingly agrees with the big blocker arguments. The majority of what Steve has said seems to be intentionally misrepresentative of reality.
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The host clearly went full clickbait by brining up the block war stuff. Really lame given the topic reason for episode
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I am past the point of caring about the Bitcoin vs shitcoin debate. And bcash and faketoshicash are shitcoins. Roger Ver and Steve Patterson are welcome to them. We all get Bitcoin at the price we deserve. If stubbornness prevents Roger and Steve from getting it now, that's is a problem for them not me.
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Why is this dude arguing for b-cash when it is worth 0.0035% of bitcoin? It's less than the price of bitcoin when Mike Hearn was still around! He should get a job at McDonald's and stack sats instead.


















